Darkfall

I'm very confused by many of the "die-hard" fans that seem to exist when it comes to this game.  I don't understand the basis on which people think this game will be good (if it ever comes out at all).  The game isn't based on an existing IP, and there is little "real" information about how the game works/will work as no one seems to have tested or even seen the game in action.  There are a number of "hardcore PvP" fans who seem to think this game is the be-all end-all of PvP games, but I really don't see how you can make that kind of statement without any concrete information to base it on.

Are there some extensive documents, videos, or other information that would lead you to believe this game is going to be something special?  There doesn't even seem to be any indication that it is still under "development" aside from the occasional idle promise from someone on their "team".  There seems to be more progress in Planeshift that in this game, and PS is an open source and slow-moving programmer's passtime.

What is the basis for this blind faith?  Perhaps you should question the man speaking into the microphone behind that curtain over there...

It wont, its an open world pvp. just like lineage 2 (apart from the combat system)  This entire game will consist of ganking lowbies thats all you ever get out of any game with open world pvp. nothing new nothing special.

I've often wondered this as well :P

It'll be awesome you'll see!!!111one!!11 Tasos is such an awesome honest guy!!11! They haven't been developing this game for like 200 years now, it's not vapor!!1!!11!!!!1!! It's not like their only 6 months from launch and they don't have a beta or release date yet!!!1!!11!!1

Originally posted by LordRelic

It wont, its an open world pvp. just like lineage 2 (apart from the combat system)  This entire game will consist of ganking lowbies thats all you ever get out of any game with open world pvp. nothing new nothing special.

Wow, thats an uneducated statement. Ultima Online, the first large MMO, and to this date, one of the most realistic and immersive worlds ever created was FFA PvP. Besides, you can't gank "lowbies" in a game that isn't level based.

No one knows its going to be good. They have fans because the idea is one that has been missing from the MMO market since 1999. People are desperate for an immersive free world again, and are hoping the features in Darkfall make it to launch. If they do, then this game will truly be something special.

I don't think that anyone thinks this mmo will be the end all be all game. I think that for many, the game is a huge step in the other direction from all the WOW copycat's that presently litters the genre.

If the devs can implement everything they that they say they can, then this will be one hell of a MMO. I would take a stab when i say that, most mmo gamers are way past tired of the current setup and how games play out these days.

People are just tired of lvl's, classes and spoonfed content, that leads you around in a linear world. Most want a mmo that has freedom and the abiltiy to make their own choices, either good or bad and have consequences that go along with those choices.

They want a deep and indepth crafting system where what a player makes is better than some crap they get off some stupid end game boss or whatever. They want meaningful pvp, where land, cities and more can be won and lost.

These things and more is what mmo's like Darkfall is all about. i still don't understand why this game has all the cookie cutter mmo fanbois coming out and bashing this game. If it comes out great, if it doesn't, then mmorpg will take it off it's list and replace it with another up and coming game.

I'm persoanlly not waiting just for this mmo to come out. There is other's like, Mortal online, Earthrise, Crusades online, APB, Glogal Agenda, Fallen Earth, Divergence and stargate worlds. Most are all open sandbox games that rely on skill systems than dumbass lvl's.

So for all the people that are attacking this mmo, you soon as well attack every other mmo that is an open sandbox game as well. It will just show how much games like WOW and the likes have warped and destroyed brain cells until common sense and smart thinking has been destroyed.

The feature list and the combat.  That is enough to make this game head and shoulders better than the rest, IF it ever releases.

Originally posted by brihtwulf

I'm very confused by many of the "die-hard" fans that seem to exist when it comes to this game.  I don't understand the basis on which people think this game will be good (if it ever comes out at all).  The game isn't based on an existing IP, and there is little "real" information about how the game works/will work as no one seems to have tested or even seen the game in action.  There are a number of "hardcore PvP" fans who seem to think this game is the be-all end-all of PvP games, but I really don't see how you can make that kind of statement without any concrete information to base it on.

Are there some extensive documents, videos, or other information that would lead you to believe this game is going to be something special?  There doesn't even seem to be any indication that it is still under "development" aside from the occasional idle promise from someone on their "team".  There seems to be more progress in Planeshift that in this game, and PS is an open source and slow-moving programmer's passtime.

What is the basis for this blind faith?  Perhaps you should question the man speaking into the microphone behind that curtain over there...

First - The combat system is FPS.  Which allows player skill to shine.  A skilled player can take down a group of bad players.   That is not possible in todays MMOs were Gear and level is king.

Enough of the hand hold crap, I dont want a developer to lead me by the hand while I explore.   I want to come across some random hole in the ground and have no idea what is inside. 

Darkfall will offer us games to make chooses as we play the game what will effect the world, good or bad.  Darkfall is going to allow us gamers to design a "class" that fits our play style.  Want to heal, cool grab a healing spell, want to duel wield while being a healer, sweet go ahead.... Endless options for players to use.

Darkfall will allow players to build cities and then take cities from their enemy's.  Allow us gamers to destroy cities.  build huge navels and explore distant islands. basicly going to allow you to play the game the way you want to.

NO LEVELS, NO CLASS, NO LIMITS, NO SET PATH, NO SET FINISH.

Darkfall's Feature list is the reason this game will be great..... Now can they follow though with all the promises and finish all the Feature for release?  We will wait and see.

Originally posted by brihtwulf

I'm very confused by many of the "die-hard" fans that seem to exist when it comes to this game.  I don't understand the basis on which people think this game will be good (if it ever comes out at all).  The game isn't based on an existing IP, and there is little "real" information about how the game works/will work as no one seems to have tested or even seen the game in action.  There are a number of "hardcore PvP" fans who seem to think this game is the be-all end-all of PvP games, but I really don't see how you can make that kind of statement without any concrete information to base it on.

Are there some extensive documents, videos, or other information that would lead you to believe this game is going to be something special?  There doesn't even seem to be any indication that it is still under "development" aside from the occasional idle promise from someone on their "team".  There seems to be more progress in Planeshift that in this game, and PS is an open source and slow-moving programmer's passtime.

What is the basis for this blind faith?  Perhaps you should question the man speaking into the microphone behind that curtain over there...

I do understand your view and partially agree with it. I have a feeling that Darkfall may very well fail......but the reason why people are fans of this "potential" game is obvious.

It offers everything that other mmos dont have. Freedom to be and do whatever you like and a system that if done properly will allow this to happen effectively.

Lots of people say that FFA PvP cannot work but they are all just dumbasses that cant think outside of the box. They are just going by what they have seen in other mmos that never implemented it properly. There wont be any ganking in Darkfall because as everyone knows PLAYERS DONT HAVE LEVELS. There is also NO CLASSES as it uses a skill based system. You will have no idea what another player is capable of. You can perhaps make judgement by what they are wearing and carrying but that doesnt mean anything. A person might be carrying a walking stick and wearing a loincloth and yet be highly skilled with that walking stick and be able to fire spells out of his arse! Equally a knight in shining armour might actually be a rubbish swordsman and is actually just wearing all of that stuff for show.

Then there is the open looting system. Idiots moan about that too simply because they cant think it through properly. Sure someone could kill you and take all of your stuff but for them to do that they also have to risk being killed and looted themselves. So a person who goes into the game thinking "Ha ha! I'm gonna kill someone and rob him and really piss him off" will end up rather frustrated when they find themselves picking on the wrong person and having the tables turned on them. Its basicly not all that different to real life actually.

The reason why people are liking the idea of Darkfall is because its features are very good ones. They offer realism and a meaningful world to play in which just doesnt exist in any mmo around at the moment. Sure it might fail at its task but if it succeeds then Darkfall will stamp all over the other "themepark" mmos by highlighting how incredibly limited they all are. If it succeeds Darkfall will be the only mmo of its kind and will definately stand out from the crowd.

Thats a big "if" though.