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Antikythera  7/04/08 10:07:21 AM

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I sure can.

With the latest "happenings" the noose is slowly tightening for Darkfall Online.

With Tasos claiming all kinds of shit like working for MSN gaming zone to Darkfall having 150 FPS with 200 players on screen to showing up to a gaming meeting and showing year old video.

Not to mention no word on the comprehensive video promised over a month ago.

 

 
Vansinne  7/04/08 10:57:44 AM

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Comments trolls are the bane of most sites; where as the vast majority of people may never comment on a post those that do usually fall into one of three categories.

Legitimate commenters, who have something thoughtful to say and/ or add to the conversation (for and against), link spammers who comment on the off chance they might get some traffic as a consequence of their comment (sometimes these fall into the first category..hard to tell) and trolls, who make it their business to criticize anything written and the people who wrote it, in some sort of sad attempt at self validation by being nasty towards others for the sake of it. Like taking drugs, trolling is a poor mistress that demands more and more to feed the self satisfying addiction that props up their self esteem.

Polarization  7/04/08 10:59:14 AM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

 

I almost feel guilty, I feel like I’m participating in killing something I love, but perhaps its already been dead for a long time, in that case I’m just helping to notify the undertaker.

If it really is alive and kicking then I’m happy to be proven wrong.

We have to remember though that there are still a substantial proportion of the community here, on the official boards and else where that dismiss everything we say or don’t accept it at all, so for them at least anything we say is still considered of little or no significance.

I keep thinking maybe Tasos will release that comprehensive game play video today after all it is update Friday, and everything I’ve said is wrong and this game definitely is feature complete and will start public beta soon and will successfully release sometime this year but it just seems increasingly unlikely at this stage in my opinion.

 
maskedweasel  7/04/08 11:01:28 AM

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There is no witness so terrible and no accuser so powerful as conscience which dwells within us.

I think you also forgot to mention a large portion of trolls are found hiding under bridges -- laptops at the ready -- scouring for unwary posters that may pass by. **CAUTION to all who cross

maskedweasel  7/04/08 11:08:20 AM

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There is no witness so terrible and no accuser so powerful as conscience which dwells within us.

Originally posted by Polarization

 

 

 

I almost feel guilty, I feel like I’m participating in killing something I love, but perhaps its already been dead for a long time, in that case I’m just helping to notify the undertaker.

If it really is alive and kicking then I’m happy to be proven wrong.

We have to remember though that there are still a substantial proportion of the community here, on the official boards and else where that dismiss everything we say or don’t accept it at all, so for them at least anything we say is still considered of little or no significance.

I keep thinking maybe Tasos will release that comprehensive game play video today after all it is update Friday, and everything I’ve said is wrong and this game definitely is feature complete and will start public beta soon and will successfully release sometime this year but it just seems increasingly unlikely at this stage in my opinion.


 

I think you misunderstand a few things.  Not everyone dismisses everything you post, but the difference is that there are some things that you believe are substantial evidence DarkFall will not release, whereas some of the same things can be judged as proving the exact opposite.

The problem with the community is that everyone is tired of waiting.  Understandable, the games been pushed back for a very long time.  But theres still hope there, and until we see Adventurine has gone out of business, or the games been scrapped, sold, or abandoned theres still a good chance this game will actually release.

neonwire  7/04/08 11:12:17 AM

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Well he just posted his thoughts. I cant see anything wrong with that myself. His thoughts are based on something that has allegedly happened too.

Of course we all just sit in front of our computers and occasionally log into this website and read other peoples posts. Everyone is still pretty much in the dark about Darkfall and the latest developments do actually make the its future appear even darker. Either way no-one knows for sure at the moment and like religion we can chat about it until the cows come home but we still wont really be any the wiser. Its all just harmless banter though so no harm done.

 
neonwire  7/04/08 11:18:51 AM

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Originally posted by maskedweasel

The problem with the community is that everyone is tired of waiting.  Understandable, the games been pushed back for a very long time.  But theres still hope there, and until we see Adventurine has gone out of business, or the games been scrapped, sold, or abandoned theres still a good chance this game will actually release.

 

Well you can speak for the entire online community if you like but I'm pretty sure a large majority of people are NOT sat glued to their keyboards gathering cobwebs as they wait for Darkfall to get made. I'm certainly not. Of course there are probably a few sad people who are but who cares about them anyway? Its not as though Adventurine OWES people anything. They havent signed a contract with the online community so its not their problem if sad people with no lives are getting upset over a single game.

If the game comes out then great. If it doesnt then oh well. There isnt anything that any of the "consumers" can do about it so who cares?

 
huxflux2004  7/04/08 11:28:13 AM

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I think that the truth is about to be revealed. Either by a big delay or (most propably) by cancellation. The joke has gone too far, and the initial investment money must be over now. Moving to greece was a good choice. Money lasts longer in Greece than in Norway. But all good things have to end. They can not just keep pretending to be developing a game forever.

 
Polarization  7/04/08 12:40:27 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

In my opinion this game’s development will never end until they decided to release it, sell it or cancel its development.

Aventurine and Darkfall are owned by members of the development and production team.

And the investors and financers of Aventurine and Darkfall are the developers and producers that own it.

They all maintain careers, jobs and other business activities outside development of Darkfall to support themselves financially and the project.

Most of them work part time on Darkfall, and many have only been involved directly for periods of time between other commitments, or are no longer directly or actively involved.

This project can go on indefinitely, just as it has done since they created Aventurine and moved to Greece, after the money from the only actual investor we know of ran out.

After 8 years of development of various kinds nobody really knows how much of what they have promised they have actually accomplished, perhaps they are nearly finished, perhaps not.

 

 
wumptrooper  7/04/08 1:20:04 PM

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Originally posted by Polarization

Aventurine and Darkfall are owned by members of the development and production team.
And the investors and financers of Aventurine and Darkfall are the developers and producers that own it.


Same as EVE Online and Pirates of the Burning Sea, so what?


They all maintain careers, jobs and other business activities outside development of Darkfall to support themselves financially and the project.

Stop making stuff up. *Some*, like Henning do, which is also normal in the industry. You have no information about what the 30+ devs do.


Most of them work part time on Darkfall, and many have only been involved directly for periods of time between other commitments, or are no longer directly or actively involved.

Again, stop making stuff up. 

 
Antikythera  7/04/08 1:26:36 PM