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• • Are corpses reserved for looting?

  • Originally posted by daarco
    

    But remember there is no "loot all" button, you will have to look at everything in the other characters inventory and decide what items you want to pick up.

    During that time you will be a easy target. You dont search a full backpack in five seconds you know. And threre is supposed to very small inventorys, with both weight and mass limit. So you have to choose what you want to throw away and what to keep.

    
     

    Small Inventories is not true....

  • Posted: 9/01/08 6:25 PM
    Darkfall
• • Death and Looting

  • Originally posted by bcrankshaw
    

    Hi All
    Okay I’m sure this has been answered before but everyone seems to have different views on this topic .Firstly there seem to be several games that are about to come out that offer what some call “true pvp experience “ Darkfall,Mortal Online and Earthrise are games that offer this .
    Now my question is death and looting. It seems to me the majority of people on these games forums support the idea of full looting when you die ..egg no insurance or soulbound items .Everything can be taken by someone if you die
    Is it just me or does that concept not sound absurd .Maybe I’m missing something but let me explain my experience in MMO and items you get .I have spent sometimes 2 months in RL saving or questing to get a particular item ...2 months .Lets say it’s a ring .Why should I lose it in 5 minutes due to one of the following reasons
    1. Attacked by someone much more powerful...egg 20-30 levels
    2. Attacked by a group
    3. Killed by a mob boss or any other PVE danger
    I don’t know about anyone else but I die quite a lot in MMO’s .If you can’t have some kind of insurance how would you sustain any items? I agree there has to be a penalty for death...But the thought of possibly losing everything to looting really doesn’t make practical sense

    Now before people say “shame he’s a cry baby and doesn’t know how to PVP”...or “stop being a care bear “for an MMO to succeed it can’t just have hard-core PVP’s as its subscription base .I don’t know of an MMO that allows full looting ...I may be wrong but the reason for this is clear .Even hardcore PVP’s would become frustrated if they couldn’t retain any items .
    I would like to see insurance\soulbound on items on your person...can anyone confirm what Darkfall will offer ?
     

    Later :)

    
     

    It's a mindset once you realise it is your charachter that matters not material goods you will be fine.

    Full Loot if you die thats it.

    This game is skill based and has no levels.

    Sadly if you die a lot you probably do it because there is no risk. 

  • Posted: 9/01/08 6:19 PM
    Darkfall
• • Helpful Links

  • just a bump so that anyone coming here for the first time has other sources to view. Rather than the depressing doomsayer crew that creep here.

  • Posted: 8/06/08 5:43 PM
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• • Claus Grovdal, Creator of Darkfall and its Lead Designer/Producer and other Darkfall developers CV's.*Update Razorwax AS Bankrupt 2006

  • Originally posted by Polarization
    

    Originally posted by Astralian
    

    

     So in conclusion and just keeping things simple , I think that to put so much effort into doubting something you don't appear to believe in seems twisted. 

    And in conclusion and just keeping things simple, I think that to put so much effort into believing something you don’t appear to be able to substantiate seems twisted.

    I could rattle an essay off like you appear to do in response to near every line someone type but there is no need.

    So now not only my spelling and grammar are grounds to dismiss or attack me but now also being accused of writing to much is now being held against me, oh well.

    Most of the content is factual but taken out of context, as someone who doesn't feel the need to invest vast ammounts of time trying too hard.

    Please demonstrate what parts of the content is not factual, by taken out of context i presume you mean not interpreted only postively.

    "vast amounts of time" nope, most of it comes up on the first couple of pages of google, and how can i be trying to hard when i enjoy finding out all these juicy morsels so easily.

    I see enough information available regarding DF that I feel it will release in some form.

    I also see enough information to feel it will probably release in some form, exactly when and in what form remains to be seen, but im hardly optimistic especially considering what iv'e found recently. 

    If something does not exist why would anyone be around pretty shady logic, yet another instance of a pointless statement.

    What are you talking about?, i never said darkfall did not exist, if you cant comprehend why developers of games try to give the impression something is not what it actually is or will be then i cant help you.

    I think people can decide for themselves whos been making pointless statements and indulging in pretty shady logic, especially by the end of the year.

    (I wonder if another Novel will appear)

    Sorry to disappoint you, perhaps another time.

    
     

     

    
     

    So in conclusion and just keeping things very simple , I think if i keep it to one line you won't be able to produce a page. (Never Dissapointed)

    I wanted concise responses if expressing this is an attack you must be dellusional, I guess you are playing the i will try to report someone by using the word attack interesting very interesting. I have my answers, and all i needed to know.

  • Posted: 8/06/08 5:33 PM
    Darkfall
• • Claus Grovdal, Creator of Darkfall and its Lead Designer/Producer and other Darkfall developers CV's.*Update Razorwax AS Bankrupt 2006

  • 

    Originally posted by Polarization
    

    Originally posted by Astralian
    

     I just think the poster above was trying to say there was nothing to discuss, peoples CVs from unofficial sources. I look at the initial thread whats the point of it.

    What you really mean is there’s nothing really positive to discuss about the facts and information presented, and I agree, so because your only interested or capable of talking positively about this project then you obviously have nothing to discuss.

    The developers CV’s from LinkedIn are only a small proportion of the information presented in this thread, but of course one would have to read past the first page or not be in denial to appreciate that.

    These “unofficial” CV’s were changed after I posted them here, and they are almost certainly legitimate because of all the circumstantial and correlative facts, your attempt to question them by casting dispersions about their authenticity is just another attempt to discredit 3^rd party information that does not reflect positively on this project.

    The only reason why you or any of the other supporters declare this thread is pointless, irrelevant or empty is because most of the 3^rd party facts and information presented can not rationally be interpreted positively, so you are forced to resort to the usual and utterly predictable name calling, straw man arguments, semantics, denial and attempts at character assassination etc.

    Are you trying to prove some dark conspiracy or theory ?

    Nope, just presenting 3^rd party information and facts with my own personal opinion on what they mean, who knows what they really mean but we will get a very good idea if my interpretation of these facts are correct by the end of the year, so no need for conspiracy theories.

    Is this just a post count excercise ?

    What?, Alt/1 week old supporter account 2345 are you seriously accusing me of a post count exercise, how desperate and ludicrous can you get.

    I wouldn't say this thread is funny though just empty you seem a little bitter with respect to DF.

    The only people who have demonstrated they are bitter in my opinion are the supporters of this project who have felt compelled to personally attack and attempt to discredit me for posting information and facts they obviously find disquieting.

    Again to declare this thread is empty is a very desperate attempt to deny this thread probably has at least 10 times more verifiable and new 3^rd party facts and information then any other Darkfall thread, of course if you disagree then please provide a link to a similar body of 3^rd party evidence, your failure to do so will demonstrate a tacit admission of this.

     

    Anyone declaring this this thread is empty is a ridiculous statement to anyone who’s objectively comprehended the numerous and substantial information and facts presented and would only be said by someone who has an agenda to promote and discredit anything not positive about this project or by someone who’s in denial or simply someone who’s not read past the first page.

    I used to doubt DF but when people go to the extent you seem to to pick at DF my gut feeling says it must exist.

    So gut feeling’s and logical fallacy’s are all you have to support your opinion, forgive me if I don’t personally find that very persuasive, in fact I find it rather amusing if that’s all you have.

    To put so much effort into doubting something you don't appear to believe in seems twisted.

    And to put so much effort into believing something you don’t appear to be able justify belief in seems twisted to me.

    This is not about belief, faith or trust for me, its about cold hard facts, I have presented them here, belief is not a requirement to objectively interpret them, in fact as you have demonstrated it makes that impossible.

    We will see if your or any of the other supporters faith and belief in contradiction to this evidence is justified over the next 5 months, of course I very much doubt you actually will be around then If I am proven correct.

    
     

     

    
     

    So in conclusion and just keeping things simple , I think that to put so much effort into doubting something you don't appear to believe in seems twisted. I could rattle an essay off like you appear to do in response to near every line someone type but there is no need.

    Most of the content is factual but taken out of context, as someone who doesn't feel the need to invest vast ammounts of time trying too hard. I see enough information available regarding DF that I feel it will release in some form.

    If something does not exist why would anyone be around pretty shady logic, yet another instance of a pointless statement.

    (I wonder if another Novel will appear)

  • Posted: 8/06/08 9:01 AM
    Darkfall