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• • mmorpgs are complete rip offs

  • Originally posted by Loke666
    

    Originally posted by John.A.Zoid
    

    $15 a month = $180 a year + retail cost and yet you're expected to pay for expansions even though people like Valve can keep updating their games without a monthly fee. Then on top of all that there are the micro transactions like the whole TCG type thing in mmorpgs such as SWG where if you want certain in game items the only way you're able to get them is by paying until you're lucky enough to get it.

    Not only that but you're paying for features that should come as standard with your monthly fee like what WOW charges you for like changing your character name or transfering your character to another server. I mean to me that is something that you expect as part of the service you want under you montly fee and a standard feature you would want in mmorpgs. Most the time you meet people who play the same game as you but you're normally on different servers and yet your subscription fee doesn't cover that :\ People say oh but that $15 goes towards server charges..... WOW makes over $1 billion a year so really they probbaly could charge everyone $5 a month and still be making more than enough.

    Yet soon we're going to enter in the territory where these companies start charging you $15 a month + retail + expansions + in game advertising + micro transactions + anything else they can think of and when are people going to say I've had enough of being taken a fool of? Guild Wars can survive without subscripton fee's so why don#t everyone else frop them if they expect us to pay for all this other crap? They still host every single server and still have to host every instance.

     

     

    I do agree with the OP actually, Monthly fees are a ripp off. But there is light in the darkness, Arenanet don't believe in monthly fees.

    Blizzard were actually having a lot of discussions if Wow should have monthly fees or not. The fees won at the end but 3 of Wows best programmers quited because it and started Arenanet after that.

    Guildwars 2 will be a really massive MMO without monthly fees.

    Until it releases however I do continue to pay my monthly fees, I do get ripped of in many cases knowing it (I live in Sweden, ok... Our total tax preassure is about 65% and second highest in the world. And I work in denmark, the one with highest).

    
     

    Blizzard charges monthly fees which garner free content updates, GM services, and prices that eventually lower on the expansion pack and orginal game.

    Arena net...every expansion and the original version of the game are the exact same price 29.99 (not counting some smaller expansions / add ons that were 9 to 20 dollars a pop as well).   That is how Arena net makes their money.  You can't buy a 'packaged' deal or wait for a lower price its always the same price and there are NO free content upgrades to my knowledge either.  Personally because its a heavily instanced game with zoned off / instanced hubs I would never pay a monthly for Guild Wars its simply not that good of a game in my opinion.    

    Every game company has a different pricing plan and offer different options this gives us the consumer the decision to make on whats more important to us, what fits our priorities, what makes it valuable to us.  While the OP thinks monthly fees are of no value to him many people DO think monthly fees are of value including myself.   Most games by Valve that recieve content upgrades are simply a new map that lasts all of 1 hour to complete or less.  Who in their right mind would pay for that much less a monthly fee? Not to mention most of Valve's games are not dedicated servers either.   

    When you pay a monthly fee for an MMO your helping to pay for the server, the gms, the host of none xpansion content upgrades, & of course bug patches something you don't get from non MMO games.

    While I won't pay monthly fees for some games because they simply are not worth it there are how ever MANY online games I would pay a monthly fee for.  For instance I'd pay a monthly fee for Neverwinter Nights if it meant I got a dedicated server to use for my friends and I to play on.

    What is of value is completely subjective when it comes to video games, the OP is right and wrong its simply is opinion and not any sort of fact.

     

    btw anyone dumb enough to even fathom the idea of paying monthly for animal crossing has some wires crossed they're not even going to do DLC for Animal crossing and your extremely limited in activities.  

  • Posted: 12/02/08 1:50 PM
    General Discussion
• • THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT

  • DPS means squat if you can't A. get alot of kills and B. win the scenario.  Personally I think people who brag at DPS but totally suck at getting the kills or winning the scenario or working as a team not worrying over DPS are the worst community members. 

    DPS to me shows you found a couple of targets to beat on who were getting alot of heals and you proceeded to attack them instead of going after the healer or making sure your team was succeeding at the scenario's goals.

    Even the pictures proves it..they may of gotten alot of DPS but they got squat in XP & RP compared to people with Less DPS....of course that also means the photo is probably shopped.

  • Posted: 12/02/08 12:46 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • doing other side quest

  • Ok that makes no sense I've done ALL the scenarios at all the Tiers except T4 and it never updates if this is true they need to change the entry to Tier 4 Empire Class scenario.

    You are saying that it only works at Tier 4 did I read that correctly?

  • Posted: 12/02/08 12:42 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Can i run it? previous problems

  • He's bottle necked on the video card more ram will not help that much plus if his mother board is using AGP 2 Gigs is most likely the max.

  • Posted: 12/02/08 12:40 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Patch 1.0.6 Patch Notes

  • the next patch is 1.1 which is the full release of the new classes to everyone.  All of 1.06 is up and in they just split the notes in half.

  • Posted: 12/02/08 12:37 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)